Aviation Center

 

Ready to Apply?
File your application
online through SUNY's
website.
Apply Now


 

FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

 

IMPORTANT PAYMENT DETAILS FOR FLIGHT STUDENTS

In order for a student to maintain enrollment in their selected flight training block their Spring 2015 tuition bill must reflect a “paid” status by January 9, 2015.

Please check your Farmingdale State College email account regularly for correspondence from the Aviation Center pertaining to Spring 2015 registration, billing and wait list policies.

 

When can I start flying?
It is our intent to have our students start flying as soon as possible. There are many factors that determine when you will or can start flying. Our primary concern is that you will succeed when you do start flying. Some students choose not to fly their first semester wanting to acclimate to college life and some will not meet the Aviation Department's pre-requisites or co-requisites. If a student wants to begin flight training after the semester has started and meets the requirements they may have the opportunity to begin flight training mid-semester, schedule permitting, or they may elect to defer their flight training until the next academic semester.
What are the tuition and flight training fees?

Information on tuition and fees can be found at the Student Accounts Office

Professional Pilot students learn to fly through one-on-one instruction with an FAA Certified Flight Instructor (CFI). This includes both one-on-one ground instruction and one-on-one flight instruction in both simulators and aircraft. Students pay an hourly rate for this ground and flight instruction and the number of hours required to complete the flight courses will vary between students based on individual aeronautical ability, student preparation, motivation, and other factors. These hourly costs are covered by flight fees which are billed in advance of each semester in addition to regular tuition and regular Farmingdale State College fees. These flight fees must be paid for each semester that a student is enrolled in the Pro Pilot program. Current flight fees are $9,000.00 per semester and these are subject to change. If a student depletes the flight fee funds on their account during the semester, they will be required to deposit additional funds to continue flight training for that semester. A $9000.00 flight fee charge will also be added to tuition bills of non-Pro Pilot Students enrolled in flight courses.

If a balance remains on your Aero Fee account at the end of the semester it will be "rolled over" and you will be able to use these funds toward flight training for the next semester, and for advanced flight certification. You will be charged the $9,000 flight fee each semester regardless of your Aero Fee account balance. At the completion of flight training or upon withdrawal from the program if there is money remaining in your aero account the student may request a refund. Refunds are issued at the discretion of the Student Accounts office.

How do we pay for the flight Aero Fee?

There are several federally subsidized programs available to assist you in obtaining a college education. In addition to the federal programs there are a number of commercial sources available to cover those unmet needs. The College has a listing of a large number of scholarships available at the Financial Aid Office.

How do I register for flying?

Registration for a flight training schedule like any other course may be accomplished online via OASIS or with your academic advisory. Flight block openings are limited. Students must be in a paid status by the payment deadline date to retain their flight training schedule. Notification of the payment deadline date is relayed to the student well in advance to allow for payment arrangements. Due to the limited number of seats students without a flight training schedule will be added to the waiting list.

Flight blocks meet three times per week for the duration of the semester. During the semester the Aviation Center operates six days per week from 0700 - 2000 local time. Students are expected to arrive at least 30 minutes prior to their scheduled Flight Block time to complete the necessary pre-flight preparation in anticipation of their upcoming flight activity.

When space is limited the Aviation Center Management reserve the right to change student flight training schedules as they see fit to best serve the student population (ie: students in AVN 105, 106, 212, 310, or 412 are required to pick Blocks 1-4. Students enrolled in the instrument flight course AVN 209 are required to select Block IN1 or IN2).

 Flight Blocks are listed as Aviation Courses AVN 094 and are as follows:

 (MWF= Monday, Wednesday, Friday) (TRS= Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday)

 

BLOCK #

DAYS

START TIME

 END TIME

 BL1

MWF

0700

0915

 

 BL2

MWF

0930

1145

 
 BL3

MWF

1215

1430

 

 BL4

MWF

1445

1700

 

 IN1

MWF

1715

1930

  
 BL6

TRS

0700

0915

 BL7

TRS

0930

1145

    

 BL8

TRS

1215

1430

 BL9

TRS

1445

1700

 CFI

TRS

1445

1700

 IN2

 TRS

 1700

 1930

 WTL

 WAIT LIST

 

 

 

I am enrolled in a flight course. How long do I have to complete the course? 

Your flying needs to be completed prior to the end of the twelfth (12th) calendar month in which you registered for that flight course.

Academic Flight Course Grading Policy:

Flight courses must be completed within one year of registration.

Within this time frame a student must either:

1. Successfully complete the course and be issued a grade. Courses are graded upon completion of a Practical Test and a certificate or rating was earned from the FAA or Designated Pilot Examiner, if applicable.

OR

2. Withdraw from the course, due to the following extenuating circumstances: Active Military Obligations, Medical conditions requiring removal from active flight status for durations of 60 consecutive days or more.

3. If neither of the above occurs, a failing grade will be assigned.

What if I have prior flight training experience?

Students that have soloed or have pilot certificates/ratings are required to meet with the Chief Flight Instructor to determine the best course of action to seamlessly continue flight training.

Please note, entry to the program will be limited to students who have earned only their private pilot certificate. If you have earned your instrument rating or commercial pilot certificate, you will not be eligible for admission to the Professional Pilot program; you may however continue flight training at the Aviation Center. The Farmingdale State College Aviation Department bases its flight education philosophy on a four-year college degree. Consequently, students who have obtained flight certificates/ratings, with or without college credit, may not have satisfied the academic and flight requirements contained within the aviation major that they are pursuing at Farmingdale State College.

All aviation courses subject to being transferred to FSC, flight or non-flight, are reviewed by the Aviation Department for transferability. It is the responsibility of the student to initiate a review process of transfer courses. For questions about the transferability of courses, please contact the Aviation Department. Students may e-mail the Aviation Department Acting Chairperson, Dr. Jeanne Radigan at jeanne.radigan@farmingdale.edu. Please refer to: Admissions at Farmingdale.edu for more information on departmental and transfer policies. Once a student has received appropriate academic credit for flight certificates held, they will still need an evaluation conducted by the Chief or Assistant Chief Flight Instructor to ensure the student meets the minimum requirements set forth in the FAA Practical Test Standards for the certificate held. This Evaluation is accomplished by enrolling in AVN112. Contact the Chief Flight Instructor for more information.

Who provides the flight training at Farmingdale State College?

The Aviation Center at Farmingdale State College provides all of the flight training. The aircraft are owned by Farmingdale State College and the instructors are employees of the College. Over 60% of our Instructors are graduates of the Professional Pilot program at Farmingdale State College. All the aircraft are maintained by an in-house maintenance department and our technicians are employees of Farmingdale State College.

What about citizenship and TSA requirements?

Proof of US Citizenship is required prior to initiating any flight training in the form of an unexpired US Passport, US Naturalization Certificate, or an ORIGINAL US or Territory Birth Certificate with raised seal. Resident Aliens should contact the Aviation Center for requirements. Non US citizens are required to fill out an application with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) prior to flight training. Students will not be allowed to fly until clearance is provided. IT MAY TAKE UP TO 6 WEEKS FOR CLEARANCE. Information can be found at www.flightschoolcandidates.gov.

Do I need an FAA medical certificate to enroll in the aviation program?

A medical exam administered by an FAA Aviation Medical Examiner is required prior to flight training. Students must be able to obtain and maintain a 1st, 2nd or 3rd class FAA medical certificate. For students pursuing flight as a career choice the department strongly recommends students obtain a 1st class medical certificate. The requirements for medical standards are listed in the Code of Federal Regulations Title 14 Part 67. To locate an Aviation Medical Examiner in your area visit http://www.faa.gov/pilots/amelocator. Students wishing to enroll in a flight course are required to have at least a third class medical prior to beginning their flight training at Farmingdale State College.

When should I apply for my FAA medical certificate?

There are several reasons for which you could be denied a medical certificate even if you feel you are in good health. These reasons have to do with medical and/or legal problems you have had, and should be evaluated before beginning your education for an aviation-related career. If any of these problems need to be addressed to obtain your certificate, delays might occur. Therefore, we advise you to obtain a FAA medical certificate before coming to Farmingdale State College. You are required to possess a medical certificate prior to flight training.  It is in your best interest to obtain your medical certificate early to avoid delays. If you have no known medical issues, the entire process to receive a FAA medical is relatively straightforward and should be accomplished within a few hours. If you have a complicated medical history or any potentially disqualifying conditions we recommend that you apply at least 3 months prior to beginning your flight class.

Could I be denied a medical certificate?

Certain medical conditions and behavior problems can result in denial of your medical certificate. If you have significant medical and/or legal problems, you should have copies of medical and/or court records for your examiner.

Will my flight training be changed for inclement weather or maintenance cancellations?

Each flight training syllabus allows for various ground and/or simulator activities to be accomplished during the course. Normally, training will still be accomplished if the weather doesn't permit a flight. The Maintenance department does an excellent job of maintaining a high reliability rate on all the aircraft so it would be unusual to be delayed more than a flight or two due to a maintenance occurrence. Each student's progress is continuously monitored and changes may be made based on unusual circumstances.

What about the airspace & weather?

One of the unique features about choosing Farmingdale State College and flight training on Long Island is that students learn to fly in complex airspace, four seasons and many different weather environments. The Aviation Center is located at KFRG -Republic Airport, a Class Delta airport underlying the New York Class Bravo Airspace fifteen miles west of the Long Island MacArthur Class Charlie Airspace offering our students the opportunity to experience interacting with Air Traffic Control and the National Airspace System. When able, students are exposed to as much flying in "actual" weather conditions as possible during their instrument training. This training helps them prepare for their professional careers. In addition, there are plenty of ground and simulator activities integrated in the training syllabus to allow for those days when flights are not possible.

Why do I have to maintain an 80% grade average?

The flight and ground Training Course Outlines (TCOs) at Farmingdale State College are approved by the FAA under FAR Part 141 and require that each student pass each stage of training with an 80% or better grade prior to moving to the next stage. In addition, our courses require that an overall grade of an 80% or higher be maintained in the course.

I've never been in a small airplane? What do you suggest?

The Aviation Center strongly encourages all prospective flight students take an introductory flight lesson at a flight school near their home. If you have the passion and desire for flight, you probably will love the experience. However, some people do realize that although they have a passion for aviation, being inside a small airplane may cause physical discomfort. It's beneficial to discover that early.  Students may instead pursue a non-flying aviation career path. FSC offers a four year degree program in Aviation Management. This program offers courses in airline and airport management, aviation law and securities.

Can my parent/guardian or roommate participate with me on a flight lesson?

Due to the intensity of each flight lesson we do not recommend passengers during flight lessons. However, at the discretion of your Flight Instructor, passengers may be allowed to observe your flight training from the back seat of the training aircraft. The requirements to carry passengers are available at the Aviation Center and require that the pilot and passenger attend a briefing prior to carrying passengers. Any Farmingdale State College student with a current RAM ID is eligible as an observer. Immediate family members are allowed as observers on a case by case basis.

=
What about the FAA Written Test? Do you know where I take that test ? How much does it cost?

The Aviation Center is able to offer FAA Written Testing to all students. For Farmingdale State College students, the cost of the written tests is deducted directly from the Aero Fee account and can be scheduled with your flight instructor.